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باجلاني
13-01-2006, 20:10
گیشته سال شما وه حازکه رانی شما دایم به خیر بی
اليوم كنت جالساً في مجتمع شبكي حيث قرابة مئة شخص وكنت أراقب وأتأسف على الحالة
التي وصلت اليها لهجتنا الجميلة . وتكررت هذه الكلمات (أيامكم سعيدة)و(أسعد الله أيامكم)و
(من المعايدين إن شاء الله)و(شلونك أبو فلان)و(شلون الواليد)و(أشو ما تبيّنون)و(الله بالخير)
و(مشتاقين مرّوا علينا)و(سولف أحچي)و(أخوان من رخصتكم )و...ووووووووووووووو
إلى ما لانهاية له من الجمل التي نسيت الكثير منها .وقد يسأل سائل(هذه كلمات مخاطبة معروفة
لدى جميع العرب ) ولكن الطّامة الكبرى بأن كل الموجودين كانوا ينطقون بالشبكية وليست العربية
فأي كلمة شبكية بقيت لنا سوى (بو و بيله)والتي قد تستبدل ب(تعال وروح) ونكون حينها
شبك يتكلمون العربية المفلطحة وربما نبدل إسم لغتنا من الشبكية إلى (البرتكيشية).
إن الله سبحانه وتعالى سيحاسبنا على ما نقترف من ظلم وجور على لساننا التي هي هبة من الله
(إنا جعلناكم شعوباً وقبائل لتعارفوا إن أكرمكم عند الله أتقاكم)
لذى فإن مسؤلية الحفاظ على تأريخنا وثقافتنا (ولغتنا هي أساس تاريخنا وثقافتنا)تقع على
الجميع وخصوصاً أصحاب الأقلام.
باجلاني............

غير مسجل
15-01-2006, 17:00
jashnat hambarek bo wa keshta sali ato wa wa6nman be kherbe ya rab:)

6ab3an makti zewani shabkiman shreen neya:)

Be kheir bemani


shabakeya-turkmaneya

gasanlu
21-01-2006, 14:12
Dear Mr. BAJALANI , Tank you for your letter on SHABAK and Bajalan

I my self also Bajalan from QASANIA in Iraq

My qustion is "is thier any defference between SHBAK and BAJALAN"

If thier is difference please answer that and if not also please anser thar.

Thank you very much

Dr. Wheshnam Gasanlu BAJALAN




Thank you

My Mail is:

weshnam@yahoo.de
my

باجلاني
22-01-2006, 19:43
Dear Mr.Weshnam

About your request I will explain to you many points and hope you will get

the answer.

the nations around here(arabs,kildoashorian,turkmans,other kurds) use the word (shabak) for many groups(shabaks,bajalan,rojbayan,dawwdi,zengene)they do not make different between them , so we are announced by (shabak) ,but inside our area its different because we know our self and we know ho is

Shabak &ho is bajalan (the two big groups in area).

Shabaks are 100% shiate . The sublanguage they use is some different from

that bajalans use but it’s very near.

bajlans are mixed (shiate & sunny) most of them live in villages north of mosul but there is bajalans in villages east of mosul,and no shabaks in north of mosul .

(zengene) s speech is different from shabaks&bajalans it’s going to Farsi language, we must listen carefully to understand it.

the groups we call them shabak where (zrari) before 50 years but they try

now to become a nation (Dr.Hunain al-kaddo) leading them, and they try now to put bajlans, rojbayan, dawwdi, zengene and other small groups in that direction.but many peoples does not run after them.

we are bajlans and we know exactly our tribe. And about me:

I am bajalan my name is end by (ali surla) (the grand father of 5 villages now

my fifth grandfather is(ali agha)bajlan.

By the way our grandfather (Ali agha) was also announced by(Ali agha

(عه لي ئاغا قه زانلو)(قه زانلغ)( qazanlu or qazanlug)

And you can find his name in (Kurdish tribes

The kakaee or (sarly) here in 4 villages they speak a sublanguage very close to shabaks and bajlan more closer than zengene to us and they are not

shabaks nether bajalan & not zengene but the nations around think that thy are also shabaks



I think that the word (shabak) is an (Arabic imperially word

It’s clear for you now the difference between shabak & bajalan

With thanks & regards

Bajalani

22-1-2006

صلاح الدين الشبكي
24-01-2006, 07:04
Thank you master bajalani for this explaining

غير مسجل
27-01-2006, 21:39
Dear Mr. Bajalani,

Thank you for your explanation about the Shabak

We Think in Gasania and in diala (KANAQIN,Mansuria.......and other Placece where thier are Bajalan ,that no defference between GASANLU and SHABAK but from your worthy explanation, i anderstand that thier are many unexplained thigs between Bajalan (GASANLU) and SHABAKS
It is time to solve the problems Because Both Bajalan and SHABAK are the same Nation and they are strong relative
We Gasanlu See The SHABAK-BAJALN

in Musul and KIRKUK and other pleases ......
As our brothers and we speake about them with very big Respect

Thank you again for your Writing

hear from you soon



Best Regards


Whasnam Gasanlu